tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post7797811103746651996..comments2023-09-01T10:08:28.177-07:00Comments on The Golden Dawn Blog: Sexuality & the Golden Dawn (Interview with David Griffin)Imperator David Griffinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-58189043224804541682010-10-06T01:45:44.488-07:002010-10-06T01:45:44.488-07:00This was a good read for me. Thank you for talking...This was a good read for me. Thank you for talking quite openly (your use of "Love & Sex" left some comfy open space for one's own clues). <br /><br />Some time ago I decided to take some lessons by Paul Foster Case. I wasn't interested in orders and traditional stuff at that time but it helped me to read some quotes of Paul Foster Case about the central role of sexuality which has been an absorbing stumbling block for me for long (and I didn't become less sexual when practicing although it's no more the same horny expression).<br /><br />See some comment of PFC about the holy fire f.ex. here: http://www.golden-dawn.org/biocase.html or in the chapter about Nun / Tarot key 13 in the book of tokens. Or in his letter to Israel Regardie mentioning brahmacharya (http://www.2000biz.com/pfc/).<br /><br />It became quite clear to me that some time of celibacy (at least semen retention) might be necessary for some period, but that this doesn't mean extinction of sexuality at all, rather redefinition.<br /><br />All the best on your paths to liberty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-26793158257310927932010-01-13T17:59:42.742-08:002010-01-13T17:59:42.742-08:00Caro Frater S.R.
Thankyou for responding. It is ...Caro Frater S.R.<br /><br />Thankyou for responding. It is hard for students to find themselves, occasionally, diametrically opposed to their teachers/initiators and their rules, as I did on this matter. However, your response has encouraged me to believe that due to today's spirit of more open communications in which we are free to discuss such questions, the GD Order is indeed evolving ... and indeed, if we do not question the rules and why they are there, evolution can be stunted. Of course, I still do not know if what she believed had any magical implications in more elevated workings than those to which I have been exposed so far, but I would like to hope and believe that there is "room for everyone" to work within our Order, as you clearly do.<br />In love and light,<br />Soror V.I.A.Soror V.I.A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-21374896879281760292010-01-04T01:50:45.553-08:002010-01-04T01:50:45.553-08:00Cara Soror V.I.A.,
If I may answer your last ques...Cara Soror V.I.A.,<br /><br />If I may answer your last question, if we in our Order have any restrictions against homosexuals? Absolutely not! In the membership roll of my Temple in Sweden we have homo- and bisexual Fratres and Sorors. Some of my dearest Fratres in my Order are not heterosexual.<br /><br />Our Order initates prospective persons regardless of gender, creed, religion, or sexual preferences.<br /><br />In Licht, Leben und Liebe<br />S.R.Sincerus Renatus...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16773943810683981054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-50309125449543097762009-12-17T04:51:31.776-08:002009-12-17T04:51:31.776-08:00I have a question for you David, I hope you don...I have a question for you David, I hope you don't mind.<br />In the first GD group that I joined, we were indeed encouraged to "get in touch" with the opposite sexual polarities within ourselves, (thought not in any active sexual way) and this was viewed as part of our development, as a way of throwing off preconceived, or pretaught ideas of the roles of men and women in the world. <br />However, the elderly lady who led the group was very much against initiating those who were actively homosexuals or lesbians. She actually went as far as to do a tarot reading, (using the Tree of Life spread) to look into our sexual polarities before accepting us into the group. She also believed that each time a soul reincarnated, it changed gender. <br />The only explanation she gave me of this restriction was that, like those who confuse pain and pleasure in their private lives, she felt that such people could cause unbalance in group workings after a certain level was reached, and thus hold the group back. <br />It always struck me that, back in 1888, most homosexuals were "in the closet", as opposed to today's prevalence of being out in the open, and that personally, I would be far happier working with someone who is comfortable with being gay than someone who is so hung up about it that they hide the fact.<br />Could you kindly ellucidate further on where her restrictions arose from? Do you have any such restrictions in any of your temples?Soror V.I.A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-53726824613224874042009-12-16T18:14:20.943-08:002009-12-16T18:14:20.943-08:00This is the kind of advertising The Great Work of ...This is the kind of advertising The Great Work of the Hermetic tradition needs. You are indeed a knowledgeable man, Mr. Griffin!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com