tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post3431258267586489209..comments2023-09-01T10:08:28.177-07:00Comments on The Golden Dawn Blog: The Golden Dawn Saga: Episode 3: The Dark Secret UnmaskedImperator David Griffinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-39139156767823422182012-03-31T15:50:38.679-07:002012-03-31T15:50:38.679-07:00Hi Frater N,
Well, let's see. Might it be bec...Hi Frater N,<br /><br />Well, let's see. Might it be because of the defamation that Farrell has spread about our order, its members, and its leaders for two decades now and as recently as this week on his personal blog and in the introduction to his book? Or could it be because of all of Farrell's allies launching a defamation campaign against the AO and its leaders all across the internet this week? Or maybe because he published our rituals? Or maybe because you find all of his arguments from his book attacking the AO on a Fundamentalist Christian website attacking the Golden Dawn? Take your pick. All are true.Imperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-90756725563499074392012-03-31T15:21:51.264-07:002012-03-31T15:21:51.264-07:00Fr. Griffin wrote, "The time has come for Nic...Fr. Griffin wrote, "The time has come for Nick Farrell to end his insane war against the Golden Dawn tradition."<br /><br />Why do you characterize someone who holds an opinion that differs from yours as engaging in a war?IM Researchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03604771512762192136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-84735737387735219902012-03-29T07:32:48.818-07:002012-03-29T07:32:48.818-07:00One would think that Nick Farrell would have at le...One would think that Nick Farrell would have at least something to say for himself in the wake of the damning proof he is attacking the Golden Dawn tradition presented in this article.<br /><br />As expected, however, all he has done has been to publish yet another "ah hominem" attack on me, this time in the mouth of another newly registered "Anonymous Nick" sock pupptt named "Andrew."<br /><br />Even an entire Army of "Anonymous Nick" trolls and sock puppetts can't help Farrell this time.<br /><br />He has been caught red handed attacking the Golden Dawn with the same attack propaganda used on Fundamentallist Christian, anti-Golden Dawn web sites that look like they are even written by him.<br /><br />The time to back off with you completely transparent attacks is NOW, Mr. Farrell.<br /><br />The jig is up and the whole world sees through what you are doing.Imperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-16923257921520529732012-03-29T06:34:07.908-07:002012-03-29T06:34:07.908-07:00I see Fredo. "You broke my heart Fredo"....I see Fredo. "You broke my heart Fredo". I mean, "You broke my heart Farrell".Frater N.T.I.K.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-14225884918235017262012-03-28T21:23:24.224-07:002012-03-28T21:23:24.224-07:00Insofar as the "what is to be gained" po...Insofar as the "what is to be gained" portion of tearing down an esoteric tradition, Perhaps there are those who would seek to derail "the great work"..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-20490763332321714712012-03-28T19:16:03.031-07:002012-03-28T19:16:03.031-07:00Trivial point, but bad Latin is almost as suspect ...Trivial point, but bad Latin is almost as suspect as bad English in a phishing letter. Vocative case:<br />Care Frater<br />Cara Soror<br />Cari Fratres<br />Carae Sorores<br />Cari Fratres et SororesErakkonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-83091973001666181562012-03-28T18:43:08.021-07:002012-03-28T18:43:08.021-07:00Care Fraters et Sorors:
He who remains silent in ...Care Fraters et Sorors:<br /><br />He who remains silent in front of an infamous act becomes his accomplice. That is why members of the Rosicrucian Order Alpha et Omega we have raised our voices to defend the Order. We do not hate anyone. Nor are we against other Golden Dawn orders. We respect the differences and for the unity of the Commonwealth of the Golden Dawn, and we have proof of this (eg the International Conclave Rosicrucian Adepts), but also demand respect for the Alpha et Omega and its members. This defense of the Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega and the Golden Dawn does not distract us from our Magic Work in the service of LVX.<br /><br />LVX IN EXTENSION<br /><br />Frater L.A.M.<br /><br />**********************<br /><br />Care Fratres et Sorores:<br /><br />El que calla frente a un acto infame se convierte en su complice. Es por eso que los miembros de la Orden Rosa-Cruz Alpha et Omega hemos levantado nuestras voces para defender a nuestra Orden. No odiamos a nadie. Ni tampoco estamos en contra de otras Ordenes Golden Dawn. Respetamos las diferencias y queremos por la unidad de la Comunidad de la Golden Dawn, y hemos dado prueba de ello (e.g. el Cónclave Internacional de Adeptos Rosacruces), pero también exigimos respeto para la Alpha et Omega y para sus miembros. Esta defensa de la Orden Rosacruz Alpha et Omega y de la Golden Dawn no nos hace distraernos de nuestro Trabajo Mágico al servicio de la LVX.<br /><br />LVX IN EXTENSION<br /><br />Frater L.A.M.Frater L.A.M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06743117441374204714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-28224289840658763902012-03-28T17:02:11.289-07:002012-03-28T17:02:11.289-07:00Reading the blog post and comparing it to the &quo...Reading the blog post and comparing it to the "Uncommon Sense Ministries" there are indeed very very marked parallels.<br /><br />How does this guy think he will gain from all this?<br /><br />We already have an indication that he only has a handful in his order, and that at least one of them has left over all this. (Of course he may or may not care about his order in comparison with his writing work).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-72899261835655132932012-03-28T14:43:09.404-07:002012-03-28T14:43:09.404-07:00@ Anonymous
I have no idea what Farrell is trying...@ Anonymous<br /><br />I have no idea what Farrell is trying to accomplish trying to destroy the GD. One thing is clear. He is trying to make money with it with his books.<br /><br />Poeple need to learn that there is nothing to be gained by attacking the GD, not even money. This is why I am proud of all of the Golden Dawn initiates who have took a stand against profiteering off of books attacking the Golden Dawn.<br /><br />They deserve a huge commendation.Imperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-58247004154884489402012-03-28T14:11:35.897-07:002012-03-28T14:11:35.897-07:00@ Anonymous
Our order is not at all hostile to an...@ Anonymous<br /><br />Our order is not at all hostile to any other. That is one of the lies that our attackers have been spreading to justify their aggression. We are not even hostile to Nick Farrell. We just want him to quit attacking the Golden Dawn.<br /><br />Regarding thorns, it was made very clear in the letter from VH Soror DIA that we see thorns as a necessary part of a rose bush. They protect the delicate flower.<br /><br />Our order bears no one at all any ill will.<br /><br />Those who attack us, however, do so at their peril, for we will not stand back and our order's reputation to be trashed by bullies any longer.<br /><br />We will not stoop to their level and flame them back.<br /><br />We will only expose their game.<br /><br />But as Nick Farrell has now learned as Robert Zink learned before him, having one's dirty games exposed can have very grave consequences.<br /><br />It is time for people to start treating the noble Golden Dawn tradition with the respect it deserves, and to quit trying constantly to tear other orders and the whole Golden Dawn tradition down.<br /><br />The Golden Dawn is not Nick Farrell's to destroy. It belongs to all of us. And those of us who love the Golden Dawn have not only the right, but also the responsibility, to defend the reputation of our b eloved Golden Dawn tradition from the destructive antics of vulgar, fear mongering ruffians.Imperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-52954967092152167272012-03-28T13:53:22.795-07:002012-03-28T13:53:22.795-07:00@ Frater N
Have you been on vacation of something...@ Frater N<br /><br />Have you been on vacation of something? Where have you been in recent weeks? Farrell has been attacking the Golden Dawn tradition in general, the AO in particular, and me personally with particular hatred non-stop now for weeks?<br />We are not about to stand back while a Golden Dawn turncoat wreaks havoc. <br />We are all for live and let live.<br />It is Farrell that will not let the Golden Dawn, the AO, or me personally live in peace.<br />This does not mean that we are in a flame war with him. The only flame war is in Farrell's imagination and in his books and on his blog with an army of "Anonymous Nick" trolls flaming the entire Golden Dawn tradition.<br />The good brothers of the AO have merely told this man that enough is enough and we will not take his abuse any longer. 20+ years of the same nonsense is more than enough.<br />This is why for weeks we have been merely holding up a mirror and exposing his game, culminating with his exposure as the turncoat to the Golden Dawn tradition that he is now proven beyond any doubt to be.<br />The time has come for Nick Farrell to end his insane war against the Golden Dawn tradition.Imperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-45921582083561898302012-03-28T13:13:01.795-07:002012-03-28T13:13:01.795-07:00What is to be gained from destroying the GD? I'...What is to be gained from destroying the GD? I'm not saying Farrell isn't a dink, but what real good can come of trying to destroy a tradition?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-49327836466143959722012-03-28T12:51:08.660-07:002012-03-28T12:51:08.660-07:00That was Luca Brasi...lolThat was Luca Brasi...lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-5925306986974595582012-03-28T11:49:24.394-07:002012-03-28T11:49:24.394-07:00OK, well it's better to make that clear, lest ...OK, well it's better to make that clear, lest someone misunderstand you and think you were making up threats.<br /><br />Whether you believe it or not, people like me don't want to destroy your Order. We just don't want your Order to be hostile to everyone else, either. Some of us belong to and like other Golden Dawn orders; that doesn't mean we hate yours per se, nor that we want it to go away. I'm not an HOGD member, but I would fight for your right to act as you see fit, if it weren't for all this talk about thorns and what not that implies violence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-5879614504839408422012-03-28T10:58:40.140-07:002012-03-28T10:58:40.140-07:00If Nick's arguments or opinions carry no weigh...If Nick's arguments or opinions carry no weight, why put so much attention on them? You must be aware of the Streisand Effect, which you are providing energy to daily. I would be surprised to find out that the sales of Nick's books have gone down after all this attention.<br /><br />I know you will say you feel obliged to 'defend', but why is there a need to defend against other people's opinions? Live and Let Live means you can allow other people to believe exactly the opposite of you and it need not have any effect whatsoever on your path. <br /><br />If some people don't believe in the Secret Chiefs, then so what? Even if they put forth arguments against the concept, so what? No can argue successfully against your direct experience, so why not put more attention on helping people achieve that experience rather than debate on a rational level? That has proven to be a never ending game of words.<br /><br />The Hermit does not need to knock the lantern out of the hands of others, he simply needs to shine brightly.IM Researchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03604771512762192136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-67680150461520664922012-03-28T09:06:05.855-07:002012-03-28T09:06:05.855-07:00@ Anonymous
All I am saying is that now the Golde...@ Anonymous<br /><br />All I am saying is that now the Golden Dawn community can deal with Farrell. A turncoat can only wreak havoc until he has been identified.<br /><br />Everything that Farrell says from now on can henceforth be understood in light of the perfect correspondence between Farrell's attacks on the GD and those of the Fundamentalist Christians out to destroy the Golden Dawn as well. Their arguments are identical, almost word for word, as I have demonstrated above.Imperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-68836197421316295192012-03-28T08:19:11.467-07:002012-03-28T08:19:11.467-07:00So, are you implying that Nick Farrell is going to...So, are you implying that Nick Farrell is going to "sleep with the fishes?" Maybe a little hyperbolic there...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com