tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post1309357262927603020..comments2023-09-01T10:08:28.177-07:00Comments on The Golden Dawn Blog: SCANDAL: The Debate Surrounding Release of the Advanced Golden Dawn Curriculum by the Third OrderImperator David Griffinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-46109138326208102532011-08-01T07:17:04.809-07:002011-08-01T07:17:04.809-07:00The individual being discussed was Master R. Ironi...The individual being discussed was Master R. Ironically the above comment was signed 'Master R' Im not sure what that meant, knowing that Case met with this Adept, im sure the person who commented knows this. However the method that Case used was taught to him by this Adept. It was called Consciousness Transference using the "egregor" of the Tarot, This Adept transfered deep impressions of the Keys and accelerated Case's already amazing intellect to the proportions that we are familiar. This method of Consciousness Transference is also used in the Dzogchen School teachings of Tibetan Buddhism. As will be well noted that Buddha was able to read minds as was Jesus when he was aware of the mental conditions of the Hypocrites at the scene of Mary Magdalene's attempted murder by stoning. This technique is also part of the Hindu and Vedic tradition, a qualified yogi can by methods of Raj Yoga not only develop clairvoyance but also implement the miraculous powers of Kriya Yoga. Which includes Invisibility , Teleporting oneself, and many other amazing feats. This just goes to show that Masters have accomplished wonders of not only Mental Clarity but also Physical Impossibilities. I do believe if there is a form of Second order teachings it would in ESSENCE be " nothing new under the sun" possibly it would be a Westernized version of these already established systems. Besides the entire point of having such powers is for Altruistic reasons, in the true sense of the word. Though personal regeneration of the personality is absolutely essential. Reintegration is our common goal and Great Work.<br /><br />In light and love<br />Frater Cor Meum LucidumFrater Cor Meum Lucidumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12261782770823918974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-80816952576383490322011-07-25T01:32:17.911-07:002011-07-25T01:32:17.911-07:00(continued Part 2 of 2)
Interesting is the fact th...(continued Part 2 of 2)<br />Interesting is the fact that Regardie's correspondences with Muriel Hasbrouck on October 25, 1974, paragraph 2, directly supports the notion that even Regardie acknowledges that Mathers was the brains/muse and genius behind traditional GD order works not the SM (including Tarot! which Case indirectly confirms in his letter to Muriel Hasbrouck when he clearly states that the SM cut out what they could not understand--but Case didn't cut it out and went on to form BOTA!):<br /><br />"Furthermore, I have always suspected that the real shining light behind this [i.e., the psychological links to Tarot Keys (my note)] and so many of the other Golden Dawn concepts emanated from the fertile brain and vision of MacGregor-Mathers about whom we know so very little. Fortunately, a cousin of one of the former Chiefs of the G.D. has written a biography of Mathers, to be issued sometime next spring, which I think may clarify many issues such as the Tarot, The Serpent Formulae and even his effect on Crowley."<br /><br />In hindsight, even Case probably took from Mathers work; but in Case's defense, I sincerely believe that Mathers did not follow through as thorough as Case did with Tarot/Qabalah. Case singlehandedly changed the lens of the WMT, Tarot, and Qabalah that continues to this day--nothing short of what Mathers might have done had the schism never occurred with Crowley.<br /><br />If two heavy hitters from the last century are able to come to very similar conclusions, in two unrelated correspondences with Muriel Hasbrouck, about how the SM continued in its function of carrying out order workings as "revamped" or lacking the genius of Mathers' input, then that lineage is a disjointed hodge-podge of teachings. So, there may be hope that third order material was given to Mathers (or maybe even Case) despite the schism, and you GH Frater LeS, are not as crazy as others try to make you out to be. Of course, the verdict will always be out on whether conclusive evidence exists because a third order adept would be sworn to secrecy anyway (a pointless ad infinitum argument in my opinion).<br /><br />So, as you say, those that are willing to do the work will eventually have the proof they need. I just hope those in the GD community have the tolerance and tenacity to pursue their development--including myself. I admire that you've put your neck out on this one David; and from what I see over the internet blogs regarding this topic, if anybody gets burned it's going to wreak havoc on the GD community--with this I'd have to side somewhat with Morgan Eckstein. Historically, logic dictates that moving the HOGD et AO towards a schism must be avoided at all costs if anyone is ever to achieve third order training and development.<br /><br />Master RAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-55962790699803826682011-07-25T01:31:20.529-07:002011-07-25T01:31:20.529-07:00Greetings GH Frater LeS:
(This is Part 1 of 2)
I...Greetings GH Frater LeS:<br /><br />(This is Part 1 of 2)<br /><br />I had a few fuzzy eye openers recently regarding your postings on third order work; but they are just musings that only time will tell whether I fully understand what's truly going on. After all, I now can aspire to develop my Higher Self for third order work. :-)<br /><br />I just finished reading the Paul Foster Case's correspondences with Muriel Hasbrouck. On the 8th of May, 1940, paragraph 3, Case wrote…<br /><br />"...most of [Regardie's] G. D. material is from the revamped Mss. of the Stella Matutina which followed the usual method of occultists (so-called), and cut out whatever it could not understand. Gematria, for example, and the magic squares of the planets, have almost no references in the Stella Matutina texts."<br /><br />A very powerful comment for Case to make lending some credence to why order work (especially in the US) came to a dead halt at 5=6 regardless of lineage. I had the privilege of studying Case's 16-year "doctoral degree" in Tarot/Qabalah and the WMT, I can confirm that he most certainly included Gematria, Tarot (obviously), and Magic Squares in his curriculum. But where did Case get the material if it wasn't in the SM texts? Case receiving information directly from Mathers seems unlikely, but possible I guess. If not Mathers, then Case's contacts were a very good resource for third order materials. It sort of makes sense to me why Moina would be peeved at him (Case allegedly made contact with a third order adept, was brilliant as well, and perhaps followed through with what Mathers started--mainly against Moina's wishes) but that's a whole different story. Case's comment implies that the SM was not heading in the "right" direction, and teachings carried on via this lineage not only had gaps but intentionally ignored or threw out material it couldn't understand. Wow! I guess that's why he made the off hand comment about "so called occultists; and perhaps this is what motivated him to re-establish these teachings under the guise of BOTA.<br />(continued in part 2 below)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com