tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post973837157830629364..comments2023-09-01T10:08:28.177-07:00Comments on The Golden Dawn Blog: The Golden and Rosy Cross Worn by International Golden Dawn Imperator, David GriffinImperator David Griffinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-39137671658464940442015-04-22T22:06:28.333-07:002015-04-22T22:06:28.333-07:00A fan and follower!
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Will join...A fan and follower!<br />http://conspiro.net/<br />Will join your order as well.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938191709323747410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-20899466912693365382009-09-30T03:51:32.970-07:002009-09-30T03:51:32.970-07:00I LIVE IN ENGLAND HOW CAN I JOIN THE HODG I AM A M...I LIVE IN ENGLAND HOW CAN I JOIN THE HODG I AM A MEMBER OF AMORC AND UGLE COULD YOU EMAIL ME <br />AT duewright@btinternet.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-2398172910362104062009-09-22T17:29:33.402-07:002009-09-22T17:29:33.402-07:00The current R+C Lamen can be seem as an old symbol...The current R+C Lamen can be seem as an old symbol of the Rosicrucians as per cite the "Secret Symbols of the Rosicrucians of the 16th and 17th Centuries", refer to the Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/320342/Secret-Symbols-of-the-Rosicrucians-of-the-16th-and-17th-Centuries.<br />Fr. T.A.S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-48664567813460835822009-07-27T11:27:48.303-07:002009-07-27T11:27:48.303-07:00Is it not so that Stella Matutina, under Dion Fort...Is it not so that Stella Matutina, under Dion Fortune, made a lot of changes to the original rites and systems of which it derived from? If so, then why do they cry out on others who lawfully has the right to do so within their own order?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-16163427673477669872009-04-22T10:26:00.000-07:002009-04-22T10:26:00.000-07:00In recent days, several leaders and members of Ste...In recent days, several leaders and members of Stella Matutina derivative Golden Dawn orders have accused our order, the Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega, of having changed A.O. symbolism due to the Golden and Red Enameled crosses worn by high grade members of our order. Since they raised this issue, I have discussed the matter at length with our new Chief Adept, G.H. Frater Lux Aurora, Jean Pascal Ruggiu, and he has asked me to pass to you the message appended below.<br /><br />First, however, I invite you to have a look at a photograph of the two of us inside the Vault of the Adepti in Paris, as this is a rare glimpse inside the Vault:<br /><br />(Please note the cross he is also wearing!)<br /><br />http://www.golden-dawn.com/goldendawn/UserFiles/en/image/vaultparis.jpg<br /><br />--- begin forwarded message -----<br /><br />G.H. Frater Lux Aurora, Chief Adept of the Alpha et Omega wrote:<br /><br />Brothers and Sisters of all Golden Dawn temples everywhere,<br /><br />I greet you in the name of your brothers and sisters of the Alpha et Omega from around the world. I wish to assure you that the Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega wishes to develop and maintain harmonious and fraternal relations with all Golden Dawn and Rosicrucian orders.<br /><br />I find it puzzling, however, that members of the Stella Matutina or derivative orders should presume to lecture the Alpha et Omega about what we do inside of our own order.<br /><br />In recent days, several people have alleged that the Rosicrucian Order of the Alpha et Omega has changed A. O. symbolism due to the Golden and Red Crosses that our Senior members wear. What these accusations actually prove is that our critics remain completely ignorant about the true Rosicrucian affiliation of the Golden Dawn. <br /><br />Moreover, these accusations also prove that neither Robert Felkin nor the Stella Matutina either ever received the true Rosicrucian affiliation of the Golden Dawn. Perhaps Felkin did receive something from Steiner, but this is an entirely different matter.<br /><br />The true Rosicrucian affiliation and esoteric transmission of Golden Dawn's 8=3 Grade of Magister Templi, derive directly from the Eighth Grade of Magister Templi of the Gold und Rosenkreutz Order of 1777. <br /><br />Members of the Magister Templi grade, in all truly Rosicrucian orders at all times in history, in fact, have "always" worn this same cross, even long before the creation of the Golden Dawn. <br /><br />The reason why G.H. Frater Lux Ex Septentrionis (David Griffin) and I, G.H. Frater Lux Aurora (Jean-Pascal Ruggiu) each wear this Golden and Rosy Cross cross is because we have each been regularly initiated in the 8=3, Magister Templi Grade of the Alpha et Omega. Moreover, we have additionally received the direct affiliation and esoteric transmission of the Magister Templi, 8=3, Grade as well.<br /><br />I can understand that our critics may be confused about this symbol, because In the Stella Matutina, the Magister Templi grade is something completely different, since Robert Felkin never received the true Magister Templi Rosicrucian affiliation or transmission. <br /><br />Nonetheless, I have no objection at all if a member of the Stella Matutina or of any other order wishes to call him or herself Magister Templi, even though in the Stella Matutuina this is a title only because it does not carry the Rosicrucian affiliation or esoteric transmission of this grade. <br /><br />Again, I do not care what others do inside of their own orders. That is none of my business. I do object, however, when members of the Stella Matutina or other orders attempt to interfere in the internal affairs of the Alpha et Omega, or cause me to waste my time explaining things because they prefer to behave like dogs barking on the internet - than to behave with the dignity befitting Adepti.<br /><br />The Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega wishes to see all of the fighting end between different orders of the Golden Dawn.<br /><br />This does not mean that we will permit attacks on the Alpha et Omega, however. <br /><br />I promise you that we will strive, honestly and sincerely, to achieve peace between all Golden Dawn orders. <br /><br />But I must also warn you that any attacks on the Alpha et Omega, whether magical, legal, or merely gossiping on the Internet will be dealt with most severely.<br /><br />The Alpha et Omega is our order, not yours. <br /><br />I pledge that we will give all Golden Dawn and Rosicrucian orders the respect and courtesy that you rightfully deserve. We expect the same from you in return as well.<br /><br />Regarding the specific accusation that our order has changed the symbolism of the Alpha et Omega because of the cross of the Magister Templi, you have been mistaken. However, I would like to make clear that if, when, and where we do decide to change certain symbolism in our own order, that this is our right as Magistri Templi, and it is certainly none of the business of the Stella Matutina or of any other order.<br /><br />In closing, I would like to remind you that the cross of the Knight's Templar was not merely adopted in the highest grades of the Gold und Rosenkreutz Order and in the Alpha et Omega, but also in the Strict Observance and the Swedish Rites of Freemasonry, by the CBCS in the Rectified Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, and in the F.A.R.+C.<br /><br />What are critics seem to forget is that the Alpha et Omega is not merely a Golden Dawn order but that we are first and foremost also a Rosicrucian one.<br /><br />G.H. Frater Lux Aurora, 8=3<br />Chief Adept, Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega<br />Imperator, Ahathoor Temple No. 7<br />Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn<br /><br />--- end forwarded message -----Imperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-23815560444224579092009-04-16T15:09:00.000-07:002009-04-16T15:09:00.000-07:00Please see the essay on my blog which deals with t...Please see the essay on my blog which deals with the same subject.<br /><br />http://gyllenegryningen.blogspot.com/2009/04/red-and-golden-cross.html<br /><br />S.R.Sincerus Renatus...https://www.blogger.com/profile/16773943810683981054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-51717871176141296162009-04-16T07:09:00.000-07:002009-04-16T07:09:00.000-07:00It is good that this was cleared out. I read this ...It is good that this was cleared out. I read this in the blogosphere and thought that it did not sound right. <br /><br />Little did I think of at the time that my hometowns masonic lodge has a huge cross quite akin to the pin that David Griffin wore.Suecae Soundshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04949168285331693357noreply@blogger.com