tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post8720656068240336946..comments2023-09-01T10:08:28.177-07:00Comments on The Golden Dawn Blog: The Little Schism That Wasn'tImperator David Griffinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-67182186497730227392012-10-09T02:32:21.824-07:002012-10-09T02:32:21.824-07:00I cannot help having to side with the A O in all t...I cannot help having to side with the A O in all this. Here is a group attempting to crystalise a vibrant link with the tradition and rise above division. <br /><br />Whether this initiative succeeds could be a make or break determinent in the evolution of the GD heritage. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-6364403944735687942012-08-17T12:32:27.505-07:002012-08-17T12:32:27.505-07:00Isn't that a pretty direct rip-off from the HO...Isn't that a pretty direct rip-off from the HOGD/AO 2012 Manifesto? I know these are not new concepts, but still... Jerome Orffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-55640677094843673362012-08-17T10:20:16.816-07:002012-08-17T10:20:16.816-07:00If McFarrell held to those principles he would not...If McFarrell held to those principles he would not be the author of so many of the divisions in our community. He is a liar. This is an attempt to whitewash himself, clearly. <br /><br />If he does not want to divide one human from another, then he could start by not attempting to divide one part of our community from the other in polemic after polemic full of anti-AO defamation!<br /><br />Caput Mortuumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-18651416446486426252012-08-17T08:45:47.754-07:002012-08-17T08:45:47.754-07:00@Nick, you wrote: "You cannot experience stat...@Nick, you wrote: "You cannot experience state of unity that an adept is supposed to have and claim that another human else must be separate from that. Nor can you claim that your race or religion is superior to another because they are all an expression of the One Thing."<br /><br />Do we take that as a denouncement of SRIA/ORC policy?<br /><br />Is this you finally answering the question?<br /><br />Maybe there is hope after all.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Sr VLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-52559929638205298392012-08-17T08:32:40.459-07:002012-08-17T08:32:40.459-07:00So say we all.
Just be YOU, stop obsessing about...So say we all. <br /><br />Just be YOU, stop obsessing about US.Sr VLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-39668592622991736022012-08-17T08:21:35.455-07:002012-08-17T08:21:35.455-07:00Nick Farrell today wrote:
"You cannot experi...Nick Farrell today wrote:<br /><br />"You cannot experience state of unity that an adept is supposed to have and claim that another human else must be separate from that. Nor can you claim that your race or religion is superior to another because they are all an expression of the One Thing."<br /><br />If you really believe this, Mr. Farrell, then why are you a founder and Grand officer of the segregationist "Order of the Rose and Cross"?<br /><br />Moreover, you have been asked over and over for months to explain your prominence in this anti-Pagan and anti-Semitic order.<br /><br />Why are you still dodging the tough questions and merely printing diversions that appear hypocritical under the circumstances?Nemesishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028905630218999918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-28495346599572285572012-08-17T06:19:53.427-07:002012-08-17T06:19:53.427-07:00Exactly.
"Some animals are more equal than ...Exactly. <br /><br />"Some animals are more equal than other animals" - Animal Farm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-14867786078300659402012-08-17T06:17:29.633-07:002012-08-17T06:17:29.633-07:00Quite so.Quite so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-55075022720787638772012-08-17T06:15:44.314-07:002012-08-17T06:15:44.314-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Susanne Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14620487964248301907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-22431072128074379192012-08-16T21:01:52.913-07:002012-08-16T21:01:52.913-07:00I have no doubt that our Imperator and his family ...I have no doubt that our Imperator and his family truly wish what has been happening were mere fiction, especially the death threat.<br /><br />Then they could actually go home.<br /><br />Talk about bad taste! The callousness and heartlessness of these McGD trolls knows no bounds.Nemesishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028905630218999918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-79619953106795776352012-08-16T20:39:26.316-07:002012-08-16T20:39:26.316-07:00Nemesis you and McGriff (the occult crime dog) sho...Nemesis you and McGriff (the occult crime dog) should write occult fiction books. You have such a wonderful imagination. Your writings are true Gold.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-66178327218871202342012-08-15T16:52:14.930-07:002012-08-15T16:52:14.930-07:00Yes SV - "Descrimination is the First Virtue ...Yes SV - "Descrimination is the First Virtue of the Path" - but some seem to be forgetting that.Caput Mortuumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-35757890046296935582012-08-15T13:07:34.091-07:002012-08-15T13:07:34.091-07:00Neo writes:
"If you really want to fight th...Neo writes: <br /><br />"If you really want to fight the traitor's; WRITE YOUR OWN BOOK EXPOSING THEM."<br /><br />Neo, that is a fine idea, one worth of great consideration. I would like to add a qualifier to that, though: the book should be written and marketed as a persuasive argument and NOT falsely labeled as "simply history" and a foregone academic, "peer-reviewed" conclusion.<br /><br />I would respect an author that was honest about her intent and method of presentation and who did not market the book as something it was not, unlike Farrell and his latest piece of fiction.<br /><br />This needs to be done.S.V.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14485713664230077664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-9854729236281005512012-08-15T12:49:09.093-07:002012-08-15T12:49:09.093-07:00It is true, all that needs happen is for the backh...It is true, all that needs happen is for the backhanded attacks on the HOGD/AO to stop, then peace will ensue. McWildoak, Morgan, Zalewski, et al, however just refuse to stand down and give it a rest.<br /><br />Morgan continues with his tired drivel and petulant prose, whining about how HIS NOISE and misdirection on his blog and those of his cronies, that has been candidly refuted and defended against over and over here on this blog, now means that seekers will be forced to use discrimination when choosing membership in a GD order--and that this is somehow a bad thing.<br /><br />The use of wise discrimination when choosing a spiritual path or group has ALWAYS been a good idea for ANYONE at ALL times.<br /><br />This is why we defend against SRIA sponsored McGd Reconstructionists' attacks on traditionalists. It is so that others can know, learn, search, and question.<br /><br />These McGd Recons feel they must invalidate our Order to validate their own. This is a gravely mistaken approach, and is at the root of the trouble.<br /><br />Reconstructionists, you have what you have and are what you are--Golden Dawn BASED magical orders that have evolved into truly unique entities. You are not invalid. You do not need to feel threatened by our existence. Express yourselves creatively and grow. <br /><br />By the same token, allow us our differences and leave us alone.S.V.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14485713664230077664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-26595575395264035262012-08-15T12:19:19.716-07:002012-08-15T12:19:19.716-07:00In the era we live, the people are remembering tha...In the era we live, the people are remembering that they hold the power, not the few leaders who's agenda tramples over everything the people hope for. The time has come to stand up as one. To set aside difference and oust those who would snidely backhand any dissent.<br /><br />So many have already joined the HOGD/AO in their cries for peace and harmony, many not even being member of the HOGD/AO! All hard working students who strive towards The Great Work are tired of being fodder for a few bad apples. We rise up together, as one solitary community and say NO! We desire peace and harmony in our community! We know there is no flame war, just great misdirection propagated by a few stubborn leaders.<br /><br />A new dawn is rising and it can not be stopped. Together we will break bread as one grand community brought together under the halo of the Golden Dawn System. All for one and one for all! For the rose!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-15509231644670299562012-08-15T10:55:18.456-07:002012-08-15T10:55:18.456-07:00Hi Neo,
I think that EVERYONE, both inside and ou...Hi Neo,<br /><br />I think that EVERYONE, both inside and outside of the Golden Dawn community, is fed up to the gills with the constant negativity.<br /><br />Our order has done literally everything we can to end this nonsense. We have tried ignoring all of the defamation and misrepresentation. It just made it worse.<br /><br />We invited all of them to sit down and break bread with us. Heck, we even offered to share the advanced magic and teachings of the Second Order from the Secret Chiefs with them.<br /><br />And how did they respond? The chose not to come and to go on attacking us instead, escalating the conflict even to books.<br /><br />Even worse, like the worst dictators, they threatened any member with expulsion who came to the conclave!<br /><br />Despite all of this, I still believe that there is a light at the end of the tunnel and hope for lasting harmony the Golden Dawn community.<br /><br />After all, the misrepresentations and defamation attacks on our order are all coming from only as many Golden Dawn "leaders" as I can count on one hand, together with the SRIA and OR+C puppetmasters pulling their strings.<br /><br />It has become clear that no matter how many peace initiatives our order launches, no matter how many olive branches we extend to them, there are half a dozen people who are hell bent on the destruction of our order, even if it destroys the reputation of the entire Golden Dawn tradition in the process.<br /><br />There is a way to end this madness. The key is the rank and file Golden Dawn members, who are ALL fed up with this nonsense, no matter what GD order they belong to.<br /><br />Robert Zink did not listen to his members and look what hapenned to him. <br /><br />Would you like peace in the Golden Dawn community?<br /><br />The tell your leaders that if they don't quit all the negativity that you will quit them. Tell this to Nick Farrell. Tell this to Pat Zalewski. Tell this to Peregrin Wildoak. Tell this to Morgan Eckstein. Even more importantly, tell this to the Supreme Maga of the SRIA and to the Grand Officers of the OR+C in the Golden Dawn community.<br /><br />An order belongs to its members and not to its leaders. Only the rank and file members of the Golden Dawn community can put an end to this insanity once and for all.<br /><br />Tell your GD order leaders what you want. <br /><br />Demand peace and harmony in the Golden Dawn community NOW - once and for all.Imperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-70014262598881988802012-08-15T10:21:21.462-07:002012-08-15T10:21:21.462-07:00"Of course, the notion that it is somehow &qu..."Of course, the notion that it is somehow "negative" for our order to defend its reputation against such bullying is absurd."<br /><br />I agree with this totally. <br /><br />If we set aside our emotions, and step back from the situation (easy for us GD outsiders), the problem becomes clear.<br /><br />On one end we have thiefs and oath breakers who are writing and publishing what appear to be upstanding, even establishment grade books. To the outside world, Im sure these publications are impressive and legit information to the masses that never stoop to the low level of forums and blogs........<br /><br />On the other we ignore the 33 degrees of Theurgy which marks every real initiate; and instead we throw paper airplanes and spitballs.<br /><br />As an outsider who discovered the GD theurgic system on his own; I would have to say that it is awesome. I believe it can change lives for the better. None of the crap, spitballs and paper airplanes do anything but embarrass me. I almost think that is the point: Bury the 33, and kill the GD. I sincerely hope not.<br /><br />If you really want to fight the traitor's; WRITE YOUR OWN BOOK EXPOSING THEM.<br /><br />neognosticahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13245556100155172903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-57820671572585807182012-08-15T09:42:28.427-07:002012-08-15T09:42:28.427-07:00In the wake of outing of the incongruence between ...In the wake of outing of the incongruence between his words (accusing our order of "negativity" for defending our reputation against the constant barrage of misrepresentatino) and his actions (publishing precisely such misrepresentatin from Peregrin in comments), MvdV has taken down everything from his blog except a parting message.<br /><br />I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps he was not a defamation troll like Peregrin. Perhaps Peregrin only used MvdV to attack our order without MvdV understanding what was really happenning.<br /><br />This, in any case, is a perfect example of yet another casualty of the Golden Dawn Witch Hunt being waged against our order by Peregrin and his cronies Kalikun, Farrell, etc.<br /><br />Of course, the notion that it is somehow "negative" for our order to defend its reputation against such bullying is absurd.<br /><br />What is not absurd is the harm being inflicted on the entire Golden Dawn community by 20 years of negativity of non stop Witch Hunt against our order.<br /><br />The time has come for these guys to end all of this non-stop negativity once and for all. As a case in point, MvdV just destroyed any credibility he had left. Were he not a part of this negative campaign, then why did he just publish the following anonymous troll comment attacking our order backhandedly yet again with the usual misrepresentations.<br /><br />"Please don't put any merit in those that accused you. They are of no consequence and irrelevant. No one takes them seriously."<br /><br />Sigh. Do much for MvdV. Clearly, the McGoldenDawn Witch Hunt is still alive and well!Imperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-47221952760889015582012-08-15T08:29:20.823-07:002012-08-15T08:29:20.823-07:00"It appears that McDvd has removed all but a ..."It appears that McDvd has removed all but a parting post from his blog."<br /><br />It may be that the McDvD sock puppet is now too burned to be of further value to SIA McGD - after all Perth is not best known for hosting huge numbers of folks with a GD interest.<br /><br />Between McWildoak, BaphoMad and McDvD, Peregrin of Perth has been having a wild time with his multiple personalities, but even he must get bored just listening to himself.<br /><br />Not to worry - SRIA will soon spin up another puppet to throw at us... maybe the next one will have more interesting things to say.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08017468994177903518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-72527626424589308522012-08-15T04:07:39.545-07:002012-08-15T04:07:39.545-07:00"So make no mistake, Rosicrucianism is a peac..."So make no mistake, Rosicrucianism is a peaceful, tolerant spiritual path. Naturally, there will be some who call themselves Rosicrucians, or belong to Rosicrucian organizations, which may not live up to its doctrines and practices of tolerance. "<br /><br />McSRIA and Co interpret this sentence as "<br />Any member can have any religion or sex that he wants so long as it is white trinitarian christian man."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-86244426284823147462012-08-14T15:38:49.994-07:002012-08-14T15:38:49.994-07:00Let's also not forget the Cultism inherent in ...Let's also not forget the Cultism inherent in McFarrell's admission that he is told by his leaders who he may and may not speak to.<br /><br />Now just who might those leaders be? He pretends to be independent... but in fact he is not a free agent at all, and he admits it.<br /><br />Did he even decide what the tone of his polemical anti-AO, Mathers hatchet job was going to be - or was he "just following orders" in that case too?<br /><br />Classic SRIA/OR+C string-pulling! Aletheia LVXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17762845110527318958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-22320695508171393542012-08-14T14:18:30.250-07:002012-08-14T14:18:30.250-07:00It appears that McDvd has removed all but a partin...It appears that McDvd has removed all but a parting post from his blog. He may have gotten lost in Kuntz's publication which, I propose a mandatory disclaimer be added warning that every attempt will be made to pick your pocket. There is not a lot of time for blogging with so much reading and tail chasing to catch up on. Needless to say, I did not "donate" the requested, suggested $5 minimum amount. It would be more appropriated to receive compensation after being exposed to that dressed up cyber rag.<br /><br />I am reminded of the basic principle that asserts who I choose to associate with, reflects what I value. I value Truth. Many value paper. Paper in the form of "dusty" manuscripts and/or valueless currency.<br /><br />The McGD/SRIA mindset delights in suffering and discord. Consequently, harmony has yet to exist in the presence of "superior" trinitarian christians. Do they not realize that their unremitting attacks and innuendoes are simply veiled cries for help based on what they presently fear the most? We continue to answer your cries because it is one of the many noble things that we get to do. <br /><br />Perhaps it is time to put in for a wake up call? However, please make sure that YOU have not turned your ringer off.Frater F.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07776093094547945333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-23020388948734436852012-08-14T12:00:26.372-07:002012-08-14T12:00:26.372-07:00Peregrin has shown his true colors again here - hi...Peregrin has shown his true colors again here - his Slime Troll goblets spewing all over the place devoid of his usual deceptive camolflauge!Nemesishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028905630218999918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-9102344983424387742012-08-14T11:58:50.782-07:002012-08-14T11:58:50.782-07:00And MdvV,the PUBLISHER of this Slime Troll slime, ...And MdvV,the PUBLISHER of this Slime Troll slime, is complaining about negativity on blogs?<br /><br />Somebody hand the man a mirror. The stench of hypocrisy reeks to high heavens.Nemesishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028905630218999918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-11357403143563219142012-08-14T08:37:58.607-07:002012-08-14T08:37:58.607-07:00Thanks for reposting that bit of classic Slimetrol...Thanks for reposting that bit of classic Slimetroll McWildoak divisiveness - I was forgetting just how over the top in his hatred he can be sometimes. It really is a shame that a writer who has some good things to say continually slips into the gutter like that. Though judging by the company he keeps out there in Perth, maybe I shouldn't be so surprised! Caput Mortuumnoreply@blogger.com