tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post1902204872357455272..comments2023-09-01T10:08:28.177-07:00Comments on The Golden Dawn Blog: MOTO: Peregrin Launches Flame War Against the Golden Dawn CommunityImperator David Griffinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-85959949095000835672011-06-08T03:14:06.096-07:002011-06-08T03:14:06.096-07:00I just posted the following message on Peregrin...I just posted the following message on Peregrin's blog, where I stayed on discussing despite the flames in order to set forth the position of our order for objective readers in a clear and unmistakable manner:<br /><br />Gentle reader,<br /><br />I have remained here and have attempted to give forthright and fraternal answers despite flame attacks on our order here on this blog because moderation was turned on.<br /><br />I have at this juncture set forth the position of our order clearly enough to make it understood to any objective reader. The nature of the responses continue to be hostile again and again, even far too frequently repeating “talking points” over and over.<br /><br />I am therefore leaving the discussion.<br /><br />If any of you have additional actual questions, you may still ask them on the Golden Dawn blog.<br /><br />I will, however, not allow “talking points” to be used in the discussion, as these belong to the realm of propaganda rather than of legitimate fraternal discourse.<br /><br />I have no doubt that the hostile comments towards the HOGD/AO and its leaders will continue here in our absence.<br /><br />Have fun without us guys and don’t forget the marshmallows!<br /><br />David Griffin (the real one)Imperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8814337050017726886.post-25818579688112020722011-06-07T19:36:57.194-07:002011-06-07T19:36:57.194-07:00On Peregrins blog Sam Scarborough wrote:
"Ple...On Peregrins blog Sam Scarborough wrote:<br />"Please correct me if i am wrong or misunderstand your most recent post here in regards to “Reconstructionists” and “Traditionists”. You state that the “Reconstructionists” demand academic proof in their arguments. Is that correct? And that the “Traditionists”, such as yourself and Mr. Stacewicz find that an “inappropriate yardstick”.<br />If then this is the case, Mr. Griffin, then praytell, how Mr. Stacewicz and yourself are going to conduct a “scholarly debate” with Mr. Zalewski and Mr. Farrell, which you have been banging on about here and other places? Does not “scholarly” imply the use of a certain “academic yardstick” wherein source are cited, primary data given, etc., etc.? If this primary material is “oathboung” to the “traditionists” how is it possible to carry on a debate with them?<br />For that matter, why would a so-called “Traditionist” wish to debate with a “Reconstructionist”, obviously neither is going to accept the other’s “proof”, citations, etc.?<br />Additionally, you recent post here goes on about what a “Reconstructionist” is, but I seem to be missing just what is your definition of what a “Traditionist” is?<br />Looking forward to your most elucidating answer to this and other burning questions.<br />In LVX,<br />Samuel"<br /><br />@ Samuel Scarborough:<br /><br />To begin with, as I have said over and over, we do not want to debate anything with Mr. Farrell, Zalewksi, or even with you.<br /><br />What we DO want is to be LEFT ALONE by all of you GD reconstructionists – and for you to at least TRY for ONCE to respect the sanctity of oath bound material.<br /><br />Since I have already said this to you OVER and OVER – and you keep PRETENDING to be too DENSE to get it – let me say it ONE LAST TIME in an even more intellectual manner:<br /><br />“GO PLAY IN WHATEVER SAND BOX YOU WANT TO. JUST QUIT THROWING SAND AT US.”<br /><br />As for the standard anthropological definitions of traditionalism, reconstructionism, and revisionism – as you are well aware – you already have these definitions in any standard Anthropology 101 text book.<br /><br />You also have them – together with interesting Pagan commentary – in the following excellent articles by Frater Barrabas Tireseus:<br /><br />http://fraterbarrabbas.blogspot.com/2011/03/tale-of-three-perspectives.html<br />http://fraterbarrabbas.blogspot.com/2011/03/more-thoughts-on-tale-of-three.html<br />http://fraterbarrabbas.blogspot.com/2011/06/summer-solstice-thoughts.html<br /><br />If you would still like to better understand these concepts, please take an anthropology class.<br /><br />If you would like to debate these concepts, please do so directly with Frater Barrabas on his blog.<br /><br />If you would like to further discuss anything at all with me, please stop acting like a BORG.<br /><br />David GriffinImperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.com