Fear-mongering, Sex & The Golden Dawn

What do John McCain and EOGD Chief, Robert Zink, have in common?

EOGD Chief, Robert Zink, today wrote:

"There are those who claim that the Golden Dawn 120 years ago taught sex magic, but the kind of inner or secret alchemy that was taught was not of the flesh but of the spirit.  Sadly, there are some who do not know this and do not get it. Sex magic per say would be at its highest point an expression of the Yesodic current, and the Golden Dawn was and is always working to integrate the solar light of Tiphareth."

The concept of suppressing the Nephesch is not part of the Golden Dawn teachings, however the concept that the Nephesch can be brought into line with a Ruach that is trained and working in connection with the Neschamah is core to the G.D. teachings.  Therefore the Golden Dawn did not, nor ever will teach lower forms of guttural sex magic.  (One group claims this…BEWARE)"

Here we see (yet once again - sigh) Robert Zink's fear mongering marketing in full flower. Frater Zink has a long history of writing anything he thinks will scare people away from our order. In this case, Robert is trying to awaken people's fear of sexuality, and claiming that sexuality has no place in the system of spiritual development of the Golden Dawn or in Hermetic Alchemy.

Robert Zink is, of course, completely correct that what he calls "guttural sex magick" has no place in the Golden Dawn. There is no Golden Dawn order, nor has there ever been one with orgies nor the sort of practices ascribed to Aleister Crowley. Nonetheless, in making the above statement, Robert Zink betrays a profound ignorance not only of the legitimate Golden Dawn tradition, but especially of the Hermetic and Rosicrucian traditions from which the Golden Dawn arose. Indeed, Mr. Zink here demonstrates a profound ignorance of the highest teachings of ALL of the great initiatic traditions both East and West!

Whether it in Tibetan Tantra, Indian Tantra, Rosicrucian or Hermetic Alchemy - all of these legitimate initiatic schools universally agree that sexuality is a fundamental fire that can be harnessed and employed for spiritual development. 

Sure, this force can be misused for base purposes, as Robert Zink asserts. However, the true function of sexuality in legitimate initiatic traditions is for the exaltation of the Spirit inherent in human beings. 

Robert Zink seems stuck in a fundamentalist paradigm in which he sees sex is evil, dirty, or something to be overcome and left behind. This is completely opposite the Hermetic and Rosicrucian traditions that Robert Zink claims to be an initiate and teacher of. Unlike philosophies and religions that scorn the flesh, Hermetic and Rosicucian alchemy do not reject matter. Matter is rather seen as the Prima Materia to be sublimated and transmuted into Spirit! And the Hermetic, Rosicrucian, and Tantric traditions universally agree that sexuality is an important internal fire for this transmutation. And in the Golden Dawn, all of the rites, symbols, and even implements and vestments are permeated through and through with the fundamental doctrine of sexual polarity. 

This is not the first time that Robert Zink has demonstrated such a profound ignorance of the Hermetic, Rosicrucian, and Golden Dawn traditions, merely to try to scare people away from our order by trying to evoke people's fear around sexuality. This is also not the first time that I have published a refutation of such nonsense either.

In this earlier blog you can read what prominent GD members, A.E. Waite, Florence Farr, Dion Fortune, Paul Foster Case and even Moina and S.L. MacGregor Mathers actually write and have to say about sexuality and the Golden Dawn.

Note that Robert Zink has not responded to a single point raised in the above linked blog. Instead, he is merely publishing yet more propaganda loaded with silly scare tactics. 

The entire Golden Dawn community is fed up with the silly flame war that has harmed the reputation of the entire Golden Dawn tradition over the last two decades. Over the years Robert Zink has attacked our order with the most vile lies imaginable. He has slipped up and been caught publishing false and libelous Nazi rumors on his own blog, for example. The really nasty stuff Robert Zink has routinely instead published on anonymous websites and blogs. 

Robert, the entire Golden Dawn community sees through what you are doing. Even the members of your own order want this nonsense to stop once and for all.

The time has come, Robert Zink, for you once and for all to renounce all negative marketing and harmful scare tactics. The time has come for you to also stop publishing fear mongering "anonymous" websites and blogs. All of this harms the reputation of the entire Golden Dawn.

I have no objection. Robert, to the New Age and fundamentalist direction you have taken the EOGD in. The Golden Dawn community thrives on its diversity.

But even the members of your own order (EOGD) are fed up with flame war and fear mongering and have already begun voting with their feet. 

In recent months, unprecedented numbers of  EOGD members have been leaving your order and joining ours. Our resources are stretched from this unexpected influx of members leaving your order. We are doing our best to accommodate them all, but it would be much better if you would simply clean up your act so that they would want to stay in the EOGD instead.

Is it not time, Robert, that you finally listen to your order members and begin to deliver on the promises you made them? 

The members of your order see through what you are doing - and they are as fed up with flame war and fear mongering as the rest of the entire Golden Dawn community is!

I urge you, Robert. Clean up your act NOW, before it is too late ...

... Otherwise, you may soon find yourself Chief of an empty order.

David Griffin

G.H. Frater Lux Ex Septentrionis

Imperator Ordinis, Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn

outer order of the Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega

"Ex Deo Nascimur.

In Yeheshua Morimur.

Per Sanctum Spiritum Reviviscimus"

"Astral" Initiation & the New Age vs. Golden Dawn Debate

"Sideshow" Bob  -  Robert Zink

New Age marketer, Robert Zink, today published yet another article touting the virtues of the New Age "Astral" initiations he sells on his Golden Dawn website. In a nutshell, Bob Zink claims that, for a mere $200, he can wave his magic wand and, "Poof!," make you a "full Golden Dawn initiate" from the comfort of your living room arm chair.

The title of this new article, "Invoke Logic to Understand the Truth about Astral Initiation," is rather humorous considering the lack of logic in the article itself. Instead of engaging in any sort of scholarly discourse in defense of his odd claims, Mr. Zink merely repeats, yet once again, his laundry list of "talking points" in favor of so-called "astral initiation." In reality, each and every one of these tallking points have already been refuted - over and over - by scholars from every corner of the Golden Dawn community.

Logic would dictate that Mr. Zink would finally engage in at least some semblance of logical discourse in response to such massive and damning refutation. Instead, he merely repeats his talking points over and over, "slick ad" style, like a late night "Million Dollar Bob" infomercial.

Miracle Mentoring with Sideshow Bob

Since Bob Zink ignores all logical argument and refuses any meaningful debate of such outlandish claims, he clearly believes his Golden Dawn blog is the only one people read. Such arrogance is insulting to the Blogosphere. Obviously, Bob has yet to learn a lesson marketing departments of myriad corporations have learned the hard way. The Blogosphere is not a place for cheap ad campaigns.

Let us examine yet again some of Mr. Zink's more outrageous claims, and review their refutation by  a plethora of scholars from all across the Golden Dawn community. Robert Zink writes:

"There is no record of [MacGregor Mathers] traveling to Germany to receive initiation from the continental adepts!  He was either self-initiated because there were no continental adepts of the Rose Cross, or He was Astral Initiated ...

... MacGregor Mathers and Monia Mathers ... initiated ASTRAL INITIATION in the United States shortly before MacGregor death and Monia Mathers carried it out for many years."

Robert Zink has been challenged, over and over, to provide even a single shred of historical evidence to support these bizarre assertions. Bob has failed to produce any proof because none exists. This is just flim-flam Bob made up. He believes people will swallow it whole if he just repeats it often enough. Golden Dawn scholar, Samuel Scarborough, however writes:

"I think of myself as something of a scholar on the GD as well as a serious student of the GD system. The same can be said for Nick Farrell or Imhotep, or several others that say that these astral initiations are not verifiable, nor were they done in the original Golden Dawn or Alpha Omega or Stella Matutina after the 1903 Schism in the regular sense. There is no evidence for “astral” or long-distance initiation from those orginal bodies. 

I disagree with certain groups that claim that these astral (long-distance) initiations were commonplace within the original Golden Dawn. I have never seen any evidence to support such a claim. Nor can I think that Westcott, Woodman, and Mathers received some astral initiation as founders of the GD in the first place either."

Noted magical author, Nick Farrell (Chief Adept of the Magical Order of Aurora Aurorae), writes:

"If astral initiation was used within the Golden Dawn there would be some evidence of it... If an astral initiation was taking place then where and when and why did it not leave a trace of paperwork? There are no records of astral initiations being performed, nor any members who are identified as being part of the Golden Dawn who had their initiations astrally recorded. Nor is there any mention of the procedure being used in the various editions of by-laws, nor any diary notes from anyone saying that they had taken part in an astral initiation. While we have access to many different GD rituals, there are no recorded instructions for how to perform one."

Next, Robert Zink writes:

"If Long Distant Healing works then the same logic applies to long distant initiation.  Our early brethren of the Rose and Cross-often did healing and there is nothing written that it was only in person.  There astral abilities were often directed at the whole world, or areas of conflict or sickness.  If Healing can be done long distant, then so can initiation ...

... it would be ridiculous to believe that the same Order that teaches magic that can affect time and space in astonishing ways, teaches that initiation must be done within a small confined space or a rented Masonic lodge? This is not very logical."

The above proves that Mr. Zink does not understand how Golden Dawn initiation truly works. This is not surprising, since Robert Zink has never been initiated into any Golden Dawn grade, as was recently revealed by his ex-wife, EOGD co-founder, Sonya Neiman Zink.

Contrary to Mr. Zink's straw man argument, no one has ever disputed that Golden Dawn initiation has an astral component. What all true initiates understand and that Mr. Zink fails to grasp, however, is that the astral body is rooted in the physical body. In true Golden Dawn initiation, the astral body is affected by a transfer of energies from the physical body of the Hierophant to the physical body initiate physically present in the same room. To suggest that this can be accomplished "from the comfort of your arm chair, watching television on the other end of the world" is a scam pure and simple. Let us review what other Golden Dawn scholars have said about this matter. On Nick Farell's blog, Polimetis wrote:

"Nick. You know how EOGD always argues that and Initiation is not Theatre and is all about the astral (forgetting, as you say, the importance of basic psycological and emotional impact!)? Well, actually, ancient Drama copmes directly from the Dyonisian and Eleusinian Mysteries, and Tragic Festivals continued to a sacred ceremony and a sacred experience for the Athenians, which is, actually comparable to intiation ceremonies (especially masonic high degrees where only a few of the candidates participate, and most are just onlookers!). 

I bet no one in ancient Greece could say that if the director mentions the name of an Athenian citizen that was out of town, before the perfomance of a Tragedy, would ‘astrally” experience the awe and pity that the tragedy inspired, and the psycologically healthy Catharthic effect of actually seeing the sacred perfomance!"

Next, Robert Zink writes:

"Not everyone is near a physical Temple nor can afford the cost of attending a physical Temple.  Should these people be excluded from the Light of Initiation into the Sacred Miseries?"

Regarding Robert Zink's claim that "Astral" Initiation helps those who would otherwise not be able to contact the spirit of the order, Nick Farrell responds:

"So finally we come to (the) point ... that (Astral initiation allegedly) provides a person with a connection to a working group that they would not otherwise had. This is clearly true, but in my opinion any link would appear to be administrative rather than spiritual. A real initiation takes place when the person is ready."

Next Robert Zink continues:

"The cost of 5 initiations before one can be invited into the Inner Order is outrageous for someone on a budget.  The average round trip air fare is about $500.00 the cost of Hotels will bring this up to about $800.00 and then there may be the cost of a rental car, add another $200.00 Plus food.  So each trip to a temple will cost about $1000.00 or more."

This is grossly inflated and deliberately misleading. In the HOGD/AO, we allow initiates to complete their grade work one grade at a time, and if necessary for financial reasons, to make only one trip to a physical temple location to receive all of their grade initiations at once prior to admission into the Second Order. Robert Zink knows this. Robert Zink is desperately trying to convince you that his New Age "Astral" initiation is as good as the real McCoy, merely because he wants to line his pockets with your money. Clearly, he shares the belief that P.T. Barnum proclaimed: 

"There's a sucker born every minute!"

"Sideshow" Bob

Finally, Bob Zink recently wrote:

"Calling Astral Initiation A Scam Is The Greatest Scam of All"

Let us examine, therefore, what others have said in this matter. In recent years, Robert Zink has been increasingly criticized as an internet scam artist. For example, on Nick Farrell's aforementioned blog, "KM" wrote:

"I joined the Esoteric Order of the Golden Dawn on August 2nd, 2005. Thing is, a month went by and I received nothing from them in the mail and no further emails with a password or the rest. I called the Temple numerous times, leaving messages for someone to get back to me ... with no response whatsoever. It seems to me that this order is guilty of internet fraud, if nothing else, so I cannot recommend them to anyone interested in studying with a mystery school."

Sadly, KM is not alone in feeling they were "scammed" by Robert Zink, as becomes clear in the below video, published on YouTube by user, "baphomet257":